I’ve had an active OkCupid profile for about four years now, ever since a couple of geeky friends from my hometown recommended I try it out to meet some new people after moving to Buffalo, NY. I mention that the old friends are geeky because that’s one of the things that attracted them to OKC over similar sites (besides the fact that it’s free)—it seems to draw a geekier crowd than sites like Match.com or eHarmony, and it’s actually run by data-nerds. My friends specifically highlighted the OkTrends blog, which pulls together data to show, for example, that there’s a strong correlation between mentioning “atheist” in a first message and getting a response—way stronger than other beliefs words like “christian” or “jewish,” and apparently “god” is correlated with fewer than average responses. The data also show a strong correlation between women who don’t enjoy exercise and those who say it’s difficult to achieve orgasm, among many other interesting correlations.
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In addition to the fact that I’m pretty busy in general, I’m in a relationship (we met on OKCupid!) and not interested in additional romantic entanglements. My OKC profile is set for “new friends” and “activity partners” of any gender. But over the last year, I’ve received about a dozen messages that made it clear that some dudes (and they were always dudes) are committed to the birdshot approach, perhaps sending dozens of messages out to many potential connections. (I’m told this may be because there are waaaay more men than women on there, but I don’t have anything to back this up at the moment.) Since I don’t get messages that often, I always respond, although over the last year I’ve tailored my responses in an attempt to be more helpful to the hopefuls. I now share some of the data I’ve seen to try to help these potential new friends in their efforts to connect effectively…but for some reason, this doesn’t seen to work so well, as we generally quickly reach a point where they stop responding. Not sure why. Below is a sample of exchanges from the last two years.
From: bi—— (46% Match 63% Friend 52% Enemy)
Hi how are you and can I get to know u better
DebGod: You can, but I’m not sure it’s a good investment of your time. It looks like we’re not a good match on some important issues. For example, I’m a queer progressive atheist activist, while you identify as conservative/right wing. However, if you’re up for a really interesting conversation over coffee or beer some time, for fun, I’m willing to meet up!
No further response.
From: ny——
Hi…I read your profile and it sounds like we have alot in common. Check mine out and let me know if I’m your type. (I hope I am!) I’d love to chat with you and get to know you better…if you are online now feel free to message me on aol or yahoo at cr——. Hope to talk to you soon!
~C—-
DebGod: Hello!
Your message is somewhat generic, so I’m not sure if you actually did take a look at my profile. I’d think offhand that you wouldn’t think we have a lot in common. For example, yours says that you’re Catholic, but I’m an atheist. You have kids, but I’m not interested in having kids. I’m not exactly classy or refined, and if you thought I’d be a “princess,” you’re mistaken! :)
I’m atypical, and I’ve learned from experience that that’s not what most guys on OKC are looking for. I’m letting you know because I realize there’s a good chance I’m not actually what you’re looking for, and you may have made an error.
But don’t let my assumptions from experience stop you, if I’m wrong! If you’d like to pursue this possibility, feel free to message me back. Otherwise, I wish you luck on your search and hope you find what you’re looking for!
Best,
Debbie
No further response.
From: DebGod
To: bw—— (37% Match 75% Friend 35% Enemy)
Hi! You said, “Hint: if you stop to look at any guys profile you should at least say hi, not interested or not sure maybe, it gives us some indication on what you think!” Well, I haven’t had coffee yet today, but I figured I’d bite.
I think we are a terrible match! Ha. You have some interesting hobbies, but our worldviews are wildly different. I think that numerology and astrology are not at all accurate, for example. I’m a queer liberal progressive atheist activist, and you seem like you have some old-fashioned ideas. :)
It’s cool you make a bunch from poker, though. That’s something I don’t know how to do at all.
Good luck out here in OK Cupid-land!
Debbie
No response.
From: dm—— (44% Match 52% Friend 24% Enemy)
Hey how are you? My name is —— and I thought you were really cute. Do you have any favorite things to cook or eat? Do you like to travel, if so where have you been or you would like to go? Well I think we have some common interests, and I was seeing if you want to talk sometime?
DebGod: Hi! I just read this and appreciate that you reached out. But your message is so generic that it leads me to think that you just sent the same message to a dozen different people on OKC, hoping some of them would respond. I would like to engage in conversation and communicate with people here, but I want to make sure they have some sense of who I am first.
So I’m asking, please, if you message me back, I hope you write something that indicates that you’ve actually read my profile and are trying to communicate with me as an individual. :)
More info about me:
http://www.debgod.com/about/
http://www.centerforinquiry.net/speakers/goddard_debbie
Thanks! Maybe I’ll hear from you again?
Debbie
Nope, didn’t hear from him again.
From: th——
Hey how are you? Text me if you want 716—— j——
DebGod: Hi! We don’t seem to be a good match, and I’m not sure why you contacted me. Can you send me more info?
Debbie
Nothing.
From: br—— (24% Match 39% Friend 62% Enemy)
Hello, How was your day?
DebGod: My day was okay, but could have been better. How was your day?
br——: My day was good. I have Sunday and Mondays off. it allows me to have one day during the week to get things done.
What do you like to do outside of work?
DebGod: Hmmm…There hasn’t been much life for me outside of work recently. June and July are busy months for me at work!
When I get the chance, I like to go hiking. I also like to hang out and play Trivial Pursuit or go to bars occasionally. I enjoy taking walks around the city at night and seeing what I can find.
I used to play guitar and draw more, but I haven’t taken the time to do either of those things recently. What about you?
You included almost no personal information in your message to me. What is it that made you reach out to me? Was there information in my profile that made you think we’d be a good match? Just curious.
Debbie
br—-: The no personal information was an oversight. I was on on my phone typing back and i like to keep it short sometimes.
I like to go golfing, I go to bars once in awhile with my family members. I rarely drink so I tend to stay away. I like to go to the movies, I walk my block twice a day 4 days a week.
[more personal information]
I tend to stay in most nights. Do try to get out once or twice a week with friends. Family and friends and very important and family is the base of everything else.
What I noticed about your profile. Too me it starts with a good conversation. By all accounts you seem well grounded in what you want.
DebGod: I am pretty grounded, yep!
I guess I should share more info about myself? Here’s some:
http://www.debgod.com/about/
http://www.centerforinquiry.net/speakers/goddard_debbie
I’m also here and there on YouTube. :)
Hey, I guess I should ask, as I’m an atheist activist type: your profile lists your religion as “other”. What do you mean by that?
br——: Great sites and a quick youtube search brings up lots a few videos.
www.br——.com
Religion has been complicated for me. I grew up catholic. I dont believe in some of the views of the church. I do not go every week/month or year. I did visit a church in PA called Real Life. It was interesting.
That is why it is other
DebGod: Thanks for sharing. I just spent more time looking over your profile and match questions, and it’s apparent that we’re actually not a good match at all. I mean, it says we’re 64% enemy! :) So I don’t think either of us should spend more time with this.
I wish you luck on your search for a good match here.
Best,
Debbie
br——: You too nice talking
DebGod: :)
From: bl—— (67% Match 28% Friend 11% Enemy)
hey
DebGod: Hey!
bl——: how r u
DebGod: Pretty busy at the moment; and you?
No further response. This kind of exchange happens pretty often.
From: jo—— (19% Match 35% Friend 50% Enemy)
looking for some fun?
DebGod: Hello! Cryptic message. What does this mean?
jo——: …lol idk
DebGod: Are you messaging me because you’re looking to hook up with someone for casual sex? That isn’t really what I’m going for on here. We don’t have a high match percentage, so I figure that’s probably what you’re aiming for, but it’s not for me right now. Good luck with that, though. :)
No further response.
From: do—— (73% Match 49% Friend 31% Enemy)
Hi what going on
DebGod: Hi,
We don’t look like a good match, so I’m not continuing this further. Good luck to you on here!
Debbie
From: Nyk——
Hey what’s up, I was looking thru profiles, saw your picture and think your really Beautiful. Curious to know more about you, where are you from?
DebGod: Hello! Philadelphia. You?
Nyk——: Kenmore, what do you do for fun?
DebGod: Some of those answers are on my profile already. You?
No further response.
From: le——
Hi, how are you? :)
DebGod: I’m doing well today!
Your message is so very generic that I wonder if you even read my profile. The OK Cupid blog showed a correlation between writing messages that indicate that you’ve read someone’s profile and are interested in contacting them specifically, and getting responses more often.
These data might be helpful to you:
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/online-dating-advice-exactly-what-to-say-in-a-first-message/
I recommend taking a look at the “Bring up specific interests” section.
I hope that helps!
Debbie
No further response.
From: ho—— (74% Match 80% Friend 17% Enemy)
Hey how are you today? :)
DebGod: I’m doing well today!
Your message is so very generic that I wonder if you even read my profile. You mention on yours, “I also spend a lot of time thinking about why people respond selectively when they are on a dating/ friends site. whats wrong with at least making a new friend ?” Well, the OK Cupid blog showed a correlation between writing messages that indicate that you’ve read someone’s profile and are interested in contacting them specifically, and getting responses more often.
These data might be helpful to you:
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/online-dating-advice-exactly-what-to-say-in-a-first-message/
I recommend taking a look at the “Bring up specific interests” section.
I hope that helps!
Debbie
No further response.
From: em—— (67% Match 56% Friend 0% Enemy)
hi how are u
DebGod: Hello,
If you’d like to increase your response rate, I suggest writing more than that to people you contact for the first time. It will show that you’re actually interested in them as individuals, and not just spamming dozens of people at once with a cookie-cutter message.
Debbie
em——: Hey I know but I just wanna start by asking how they are. I don’t wanna be rude at the beginning
DebGod: I can understand those motivations, but after talking with a lot of people who dislike such impersonal and short first contacts, I’d wager that it’s considered less polite to send such an impersonal message.
Check out the advice on here, for example, as it may be useful to you:
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/online-dating-advice-exactly-what-to-say-in-a-first-message/
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Rule 4
Bring up specific interests
There are many words on the effective end of our list like zombie, band, tattoo, literature, studying, vegetarian (yes!), and metal (double yes!) that are all clearly referencing something important to the sender, the recipient, or, ideally, both. Talking about specific things that interest you or that you might have in common with someone is a time-honored way to make a connection, and we have proof here that it works. We’re presenting just a smattering: in fact every “niche” word that we have significant data on has a positive effect on messaging.
Even more effective are phrases that engage the reader’s own interests, or show you’ve read their profile…
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Good luck out there,
Debbie
No further response.